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Modified EDC for knife phobic area

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I've had to modify my EDC for a knife phobic environment. The attitude around knives in the UK is getting very alarmist. A senior manager saw me cut a bagel with the blade on my Leatherman PST2 (legal to EDC in the UK), freaked out and imagined it was a bowie knife.

I've switched to carrying a Victorinox Spartan, as it's a familiar object that people recognise as a tool rather than a weapon, which hopefully won't freak people out.

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Nice book; thanks for carrying our stuff!
That is frightening that someone could become that upset over something as simple as a picket knife.
In most civilised countries carrying anything at all (not just obvious weapons) with the intention of using it as a weapon is a criminal offence. Since a knife is a weapon, you can be asking for trouble. There is no such thing as a knife that is automatically "legal to EDC in the UK".

A summary of the law is here:
https://www.gov.uk/buying-carrying-knives

You will get arrested immediately if you are found to be carrying almost any type of knife. But as is specifically stated, you can still be arrested and charged when carrying the sort of knife the OP says is "EDC legal".
Knife crime is seen as a very serious issue in the UK, and casual use of any knife is likely to attract unwanted attention. I doubt changing from a multitool to a pocket knife is going to assuage any concerns the OPs co-workers might have.
I don't think you have read the knife laws properly there. In the UK you can carry a sub 3 inch non locking blade without having to prove "good reason" to carry.
I had a meeting with the person that was alarmed by the blade on my multi tool, explained that it was only a small blade (I think at a glance he thought the handles were part of the blade), and that the multi tool is legal to carry. He was OK after that.
I don't think YOU have read them properly. Look a bit further down the page. It is illegal to "use any knife in a threatening way (even a legal knife, such as a Swiss Army knife)".
Also, it is in general, not just for knifes, illegal to carry anything at all with the intention of using it as a weapon. So never use the excuse that you need a knife to defend yourself.
But it also means that you cannot carry things like kubotans (one of my MA instructors checked that specifically with the police), mace, etc.
Yes I read that part too, I fully understand the knife laws. Why would I say that I am carrying a pocket tool to defend myself? I'm carrying it to use as a tool.

In the context that I carry a knife in public, it is legal, as per this extract from UK knife law:
It is illegal to:
• carry a knife in public without good reason - unless it’s a knife with a folding blade 3 inches long (7.62 cm) or less, eg a Swiss Army knife

However, common sense and other parts of the law dictate that I don't carry (even a UK legal) knife in certain circumstances, for instance - on school grounds (when picking up my kids), going to a pub or nightclub or boarding a plane.

Intention and context are important here. I could carry an axe or machete if I was a gardener or tree surgeon on my way to or from work, as long as I wasn't using them in a threatening way.

A martial arts instructor can legally carry a weapon used in that particular martial art on the way to (and home from) a lesson/training. For instance, some friends of mine are Aikido instructors/pupils, they carry katana, bokkan and jo staff to and from their dojos.
My leatherman has been inspected and handed back to me twice by UK police.
It's alarming how paranoid people become around a pocket knife, when they handle a chef knife at home. Double standards abound...
It's entirely different. The chef's knife is at home. Carrying it on the street will (quite rightly) get you arrested. Cooking knifes are some of the most commonly used weapons in knife crimes in the UK.
Using the chef's knife as a weapon at home will also get you arrested, of course.
Completely absurd that people are so afraid of a piece of steel that is not even designed to be used as a weapon.
Not really. Try having someone attack you with one
Quite right Somebloke. With wrong intentions even the most innocuous seeming objects can be deadly. In a school near me (thirty years ago) a pupil was stabbed in the kidney with a cutlery knife (aka butter knife), he survived but was in intensive care for weeks.